Friday, July 24, 2009

Jaenelle Antas: Indiana Libertarian and personal assistant to UK Holocaust denier David Irving


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"Well-behaved women rarely make history."
--"Tristania," StormFront bulletin-board member since 2005.

Indianapolis, Indiana
--This tip comes to me from a source in Oregon. I don't believe that this is unknown--that Jaenelle Antas is the American assistant to UK Holocaust denier David Irving--but I don't think that many out there in the public know that Antas has also served as Assistant to the Chair of Indiana's Libertarian Party (2007-2008), certainly not within the state itself. Yet, she has.

Antas was spotted and identified in Portland last week for a speaking engagement of Irving's, reputedly even being seen with different clothing on to cloak her identity.

Did the Libertarian Party of Indiana know who she really was when she served as an assistant to State Chair Todd Singer? They have some explaining to do. Some online posts have stated that she was once on the home page of the Libertarian Party of Indiana and was given a college scholarship by them, but it appears that this has all been pulled.

Antas is rumored to post on Storm Front's bulletin-board under the identity of "Tristania," a seemingly Wagnerian name from Teutonic legend, and also a band that she likes within the genre of "metal opera." A look at Antas's Myspace page notes:

An abridged, but representative list of bands and musicians I like:
After Forever
Agalloch
Ambeon
Apocalyptica
Ava Inferi
Bach
Beethoven
Blut Aus Nord
Cecilia Bartoli
Chalice
Darkwell
Deathspell Omega
Diablo Swing Orchestra
Draconian
Emperor
Ensiferum
Epica
Evoken
Falconer
Handel
How Like a Winter
Leaves' Eyes
Limbonic Art
Madder Mortem
Mar de Grises
My Dying Bride
Nightwish
Nokturnal Mortum
Peccatum
Pelican
Penumbra
Purcell
Renee Fleming
Sins of Thy Beloved
Sirenia
Soulslide
Star of Ash
Theatre of Tragedy
Therion
Thou Shalt Suffer
Tristania
Turisas
Without Face
Venin Noir
Verdi
Virgin Black
(http://www.myspace.com/jaenellesings)
And there's more, much more on this account that corroborates who she is. The photos on what appear to be Antas's StormFront account almost certainly have to be the same person as the Myspace account. "Tristania's" fixation on a Wagnerian-moniker is interesting, possibly even adulatory. Yet, Wagner--now incontrovertibly established as a rabid anti-Semite--is missing from her online list of "influences" on the Myspace account, and it appears to be a disingenuous move on her part. Why hide who you really are? Considering the company that she keeps outside of the Libertarian Party of Indiana, it's not hard to understand why.

Is she some form of "Trojan Horse"? The Wagner connection is telling if this is the same individual.

Indeed, as recently as last week, a German scholar has confirmed from the composer's personal correspondence (and of his half-Jewish wife, Cosima, the daughter of Hungarian composer Franz Liszt) once-and-for-all that Wagner was an anti-Semite. For many, this was a forgone conclusion long ago, inside and outside of neo-Nazi and white hate circles.
Letters between German composer Richard Wagner (1813-1883), his wife Cosima and musicians at the Bayreuth opera house showed more consistent anti-Semitism than had previously been known, a music history researcher has said. In a interview with the German Press Agency dpa, music and theatre researcher Stephan Moesch charged that materials showing anti-Jewish attitudes of the Wagner family had been 'glossed over' by the academic community.
("Researcher highlights 'ignored' anti-Semitism in Wagner letters," Deutsche Presse-Agentur, 07.21.2009)
The late German historian Joachim Fest, and numerous other musical scholars, cultural historians, and world historians have contended this all along. Fest and many other international historians have contended that Wagner's operas informed Adolph Hitler's own brand of anti-Semitism, and could very likely have inspired the concept of the Holocaust, the wiping-out of European Jewry. Again, for the sake of context, Antas is currently the assistant to the Mosleyite Holocaust denier David Irving.

Fest wrote in his sprawling biography of Hitler:

For the Master of Bayeruth was not only Hitler's great exemplar; he was also the young man's ideological mentor. Wagner's political writings were Hitler's favorite reading, and the sprawling pomposity of his style unmistakably influenced Hitler's own grammar and syntax. Those political writings, together with the operas, form the entire framework of Hitler's ideology: Darwinism and anti-Semitism. ("I hold the Jewish race to be the born enemy of pure humanity and everything noble in man"), the adoration of barbarism and Germanic might, the mystique of blood purification expressed in Parzifal, and the general histrionic view in which good and evil, purity and corruption, rulers and the ruled, stand opposed in black and white contrasts. ...Here he found the "granite foundations" for his view of the world. (Fest, Joachim, Hitler. P.56)
A reasonably thorough combing of the web shows that Ms. Antas goes to a fair amount of trouble limiting and possibly obscuring her Internet and public presence as well as obviously racist statements. I'm sure she's not the only one to pull her name and photographs off the Internet. She's good, possibly even clever, but that hasn't stopped others from noticing her.

It all fits very nicely: her Myspace page has Libertarian friends--even at this writing--as well as a number of fans of Norwegian metal and the like. That's not a real indicator of a far right connection in itself, but the restraint there speaks volumes. Comments are very carefully worded on "Tristania's" StormFront comments just as they are on the Myspace account, by Antas, and her "friends."

But why would anyone care to use one of the few operas as an online identity in redacted form, a spin-off of the name of a Norwegian metal opera group? Sure, she's probably a fan, but what of the rest here? The strong possibility is that someone told Antas this very interesting fact: Tristan and Isolde was one of the very first operas by Wagner that Adolph Hitler attended, and it was a seminal influence on him that lasted to the very end of his life. It all fits too nicely to be a coincidence. Yes, it appears someone has problems behaving alright.


"Portland, Oregon says David Irving Not Welcome: Some Notes on July 19," Portland Indy Media, 07.21.2009: http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2009/07/392889.shtml
"Jaenelle Antas, Personal Assistant, Indianapolis, Indiana Area," Linkedin.com page: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jaenelle-antas/7/784/9aa
"Researcher highlights 'ignored' anti-Semitism in Wagner letters," Deutsche Presse-Agentur, 07.21.2009: http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/europe/news/article_1490988.php/Researcher_highlights_&quotignored&quot_anti-Semitism_in_Wagner_letters_
Jaenelle's Myspace page (try not to be eating, drinking, or driving while viewing/listening): http://www.myspace.com/jaenellesings
The Urban Dictionary's page on "metal opera" (w. Wagner & Tristania featured prominently): http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=metal+opera

20 comments:

  1. As an active member of the Libertarian Party of Indiana, I can state unequivocally that the party had no knowledge of Jaenelle's association with Irving or Stormfront.

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  2. That's great John, and thanks for using a real identity, but you're not Todd Singer and the rest of the Libertarian Party of Indiana's hierarchy, are you?

    Why would you necessarily have been in the know? I'm getting the impression that she wouldn't have stood out very much among you guys, not at all. Clearly, she didn't, so there it is.

    That said, I think Mr. Singer and the rest of them need to make a public explanation to the State and the rest of the Libertarian Party in America, if not the SPLC.

    You have some house cleaning to do.

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  3. This is the scholarship that Jaenelle received last year: http://atlasliberty.com/content/2008/01/14/2008-campaign-elections-scholarship-recipients

    She's still listed all over the place as being associated with the Libertarian Party of Indiana. Is she still a member, still associated?

    Seems to me you folks wanted to keep this one on the down low. Fine, makes sense, people make mistakes...or do they?

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  4. You can believe me or not, but I am in a position to be pretty sure what was known about Jaenelle and when. This association with Irving and Stormfront is news to all of us. Jaenelle has had no official position within the Libertarian party since her very brief time helping the former chair Todd Singer.

    AtlasPAC is another organization altogether and its only association with the Libertarian Party of Indiana is that another former chair runs it. You will have to ask him about her association with that organization. However, I don't see why Atlas should attempt to revise history just because one of its scholarship recipients has been shown to have views contrary to that of the organization.

    As for the Libertarian Party, if you would like an official position, I would recommend you contact the current chair or the executive director of the LPIN.

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  5. My points are this: it wasn't all THAT difficult to find this information at all, an old friend who's now in Oregon found out and helped me put 2-and-2 together.

    My other primary point is that she didn't stand-out, though if you read the article, it's clear she's been doing her best (poorly, I admit!)in the past to obscure these beliefs.

    However, a public statement by Mr. Singer might allay mine and others' fears that something might be amiss.

    It's true that many businesses and institutions employ people of Antas's type, and that's no big deal, but I have to ask why her kind of people are attracted so much to Libertarianism.

    I don't view Libertarian ideology as inherently-racist, but then you have Dr. Paul and his associations with people who are, frankly, questionable and similar to the views of Ms. Antas.

    I applaud that nothing was taken down, that's good. As to wanting a position in the Indiana Libertarian Party, I can only say thanks, but no thanks, I'm a philosophical socialist and believe in a regulated society as well as the obvious and sad fact that the American Frontier is gone...

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  6. I guess I can see the misunderstanding because of comments of Jaenelle not holding an official position within the party.. but the last paragraph in my previous comment wasn't an invitation for you to apply to hold a position within the party. It was instructions on where to get a statement of the party's official position regarding Jaenelle. Sam Goldstein (the current chair) and Chris Spangle (the current executive director) can be reached through the LPIN website at http://www.lpin.org/

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  7. Let's put it this way John: she was raising money for your state party; she was the "personal assistant" to former state party Chair, Todd Singer, so Singer's the one who needs to set the record straight; it's not a matter of whether I believe you or not, it's a matter of an interpretation of the facts I know already; I'm not interested in the official position, only the truth--insofar as it's ascertainable--in the matter.

    In other words: you should be more careful with whom you associate with as a party, this was quite a cock-up, but from what I hear about how things are run down in Indy, the cultural climate of the town itself in certain quarters--your quarters, it seems--I'm not especially surprised by any of this.

    I have every indication right now that Mr. Goldstein and Spangle are aware of me, they can reach me here at this site if they actually have something relevant to say. My take on the matter stands until there's unimpeachable proof otherwise.

    That aside, I didn't exactly set-out to write a book on this. If they want to issue a statement, I will be more than happy to publish it here.

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  8. It's funny how "Libertarians" are so quick to believe the word of people from a violent anarchist group who are totally opposed to libertarian principles.

    For the record, I am not affiliated with LPIN in any capacity. I don't work for Todd anymore and when I did, I did not work with him closely. I don't pay dues to LPIN or to LPMC. What I do is help out LP candidates at election time- for free, on my own time, with my own resources. Entirely voluntary and something I am happy to do for a good candidate who asks for my help.

    My association with Mr Irving is not LPIN's business nor anyone else's. I thought Libertarians believed in freedom of association? I'm sure none of you have ever read one of Mr Irving's books and you certainly have never addressed me personally with your concerns. Who my friends are is none of the LP's concern, though, so I don't see why everyone is so shocked by this "secret". I don't tell everybody every detail of my personal life, especially not people I am not close friends with, which includes the vast majority of LPIN.

    As for all this nonsensical rambling about Wagner, it's BS. I'm not a fan of Wagner. I just think Tristania is a cool band.

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  9. I stand behind the original post. When you put yourself out there as you have, Jaenelle, you're a public figure.

    Your beliefs and actions speak for themselves, and your association with Indiana Libertarians is telling about you and of them.

    As a matter of fact, your association with David Irving is everyone's business, especially considering that you appear to be some kind of a courier between American and UK white hate groups to these eyes. Why would one be so active in Mosleyite-related groups AND Libertarianism?

    My take: you're a mole, a "Trojan Horse" of some sort, possibly done on your own Oswald-style, or perhaps you're wackier than I first assumed.

    I won't be taking your word for it with Wagner.

    This was a pretty stupid comment, but you're in your twenties, so it makes sense: "Entirely voluntary and something I am happy to do for a good candidate who asks for my help."

    So, you were asked by them to help? Directly? You might want to clear this one up for me and others.

    Oh yeah: LPIN definitely deserved to know who and what you are for obvious reasons that I don't need to go into here. But that said, the fact that you didn't stand out among them speaks volumes to me about how you and they share some very basic, fundamental values and beliefs about our society and our culture.

    "For the record," I'm not a Libertarian but a socialist who dislikes Libertarianism and views its values as anti-human, my point about you and them. You don't have to be "affiliated" them or "pay dues," that's unimportant. You all come from a far right cultural matrix that I view as a fifth column that must countered and shut down.

    Why would anyone be "shocked" by someone who has no problem associating with a man who denies the Holocaust occurred, denies the historical record? It's going to be lost on you, but you and Irving are in-the-minority, and you're just adding your name to a list of infamy, possibly ruining your life forever.

    There's no need to "read Irving's" books, he's not credible, and neither are you and your buddies at StormFront, period. Wake up. I could care less about your personal life outside of your political activities.

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  10. PS: You're reminding me why I never needed to "address" you--you posted more than enough material online and your disingenuous comments here only confirm that it would have been a total waste of my time.

    My feeling is that they discovered your ties to these weirdos last year some time and they've been working to distance themselves from you ever since. "John's" comments seem to shore-up that contention.

    The onus is on you and them, I merely brought these facts to the attention of others here with my own questions about it and my own opinions. Nothing in my post/article is esoteric, and I was tipped-off by someone who doesn't even have any affiliation with the Oregon Anarchists you're mentioning.

    FYI: no matter how attractive a woman is, they look dowdy when they're racists, anti-Semites, but you're such a whack-job, I doubt any of this is going to register anyway.

    I assume some of these people have convinced you that you're a "somebody" now, giving you all these "special" duties, but they'll throw you away when you're no longer of any use.

    Mmm-hmmm, I believe in freedom of association, but not when someone's yelling fire in a crowded theater and working assiduously to incite racial hatred. But I'm not limiting your ability to do that, merely voicing my opinion, informing people of online information about you, and drawing my own conclusions.

    That's not barring you from doing anything. In the end, it's likely that I'd defend your right to freedom of speech and assembly under the First Amendment, but there's no privacy protection when you put yourself out there as you have, welcome to public life, take your licks like everyone else...

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  11. Am happy to hear, by the inference of these comments above, that perhaps the Libertarian Party also supports the sanctities of Freedom of Speech and that of historical inquiry.

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  12. I generally agree, especially that they didn't pull the materials online about Antas, but at best, they're clowns who don't vett people properly and are still part of the fringe right, regardless.

    If you're in your right mind, you don't want to be associated with anyone of Antas's ilk, yet why would she have stood out anyway?

    But, there are past examples of the fringe right and hate groups trying to woo the Libertarians, namely people like Tom and John Metzger.

    From Blood in the Face (the book), the quote coming from Tom Metzger:

    "It's too bad the Libertarians can't come to grips with the race issue, because if they could, the anarcho-Libertarians would be very attractive. But they will not allow the concept of race into their thinking. We're not saying race is everything, but we're saying you cannot think of things without race." (P.175)

    So, they've approached them before and appear not to have given-up. Looking at the gaggle of idiots that comprise Indiana Libertarianism, I'd say that they ultimately hold most of the same values and beliefs about race, but they're in the closet.

    "Coming to grips with the race issue" seems to suggest to me that there are indeed racists populating Libertarian circles, but then, you could say that about the two party system in-spades.

    This would have been in the 1980s. Tom Metzger--founder of WAR (White Aryan Resistance)was born and raised in Indiana and was a high-ranking member of the KKK. He was also a member of the John Birch Society and played party to anti-communist groups during the Cold War--he and his cadre believe in infiltration and they are not alone in the white hate matrix.

    As of 2008, Metzger was residing outside of Warsaw, Indiana, just miles from where I currently live. A major KKK Klavern is in nearby Mishawaka as well.

    He's also an advocate of the "lone wolf" method of white hate domestic terrorism that's been giving us some of the recent wave of far right violence like the shootout at the National Holocaust Museum.

    I might as well add an apocryphal tale: in the late 1980s, it was alleged that John Metzger sodomized a duck--yes, a duck--in Broadripple in Indianapolis.

    My opinion: little difference in the end with these groups, it's just that people like WAR are more vocal, but actions and agendas speak louder. We're still a generally racist culture. At best, to be a Libertarian or sympathetic with them is to be a wrong-headed fool.

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  13. Leave Jaenelle alone! I mean what's wrong with you people? Are you Libertarians or Puritans? I thought that witch hunting had stopped many centuries ago...

    Just because her photos appeared in stormfront, does not mean she is a member of that organization. What if she has a friend or an admired who -without her authorization- decided to publish her photos there?

    And that she works for Irving woo-hoo!!! Working for someone does not mean you share ALL the believes that person has. I don't know Jaenelle personally, I just learned about her after reading the nauseous article published in the New Times and I visited her myspace and linkdn accounts. She appears to be a smart, well-rounded individual, who is also very talented! Do not smear her and mind your own damn business!!!

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  14. Thanks Mr. Invisible Not-a-Man, you really instill a feeling of credibility in myself and my readers.

    Where to begin? Oh, OK: go to links, read what Jaenelle posted herself, and you'll be able to understand (maybe) that she put her ass out there and that the information could be easily corroborated. In fact, read the comment she left where she corroborates what I've written here minus the Wagner details.

    She's wrong on Wagner anyway, he inspired Hitler's desire to exterminate the Jews, read the libretto for Siegfried.

    Why you think I'm a Libertarian is beyond me, I'm not, but I am a philosophical socialist of the Eugene Debs school.

    "Nauseous"? It's people like you who make me sick, asshole. Try pulling your head out of your ass, growing a pair, and actually start thinking for yourself for once in your stupid life.

    I don't really give-a-damn if she's a member of StormFront or not, it's obvious that she and you feel some oddball empathy for them and their beliefs, which makes you not only a moron, but an a dangerous fool.

    "Smear"? She's doing fine in that area herself...

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  15. Matt Janovic, Irving has significant credibility among historians of the Second World War, because he discovered so many of the facts that they use in their books. The mainstream idiot-media may always use tired smear-words when it discusses him, but among those who matter in his field of expertise, his work is greatly valued.

    As for the general issue of race, no intelligent and free-thinking person can seriously suggest that there is no difference, in general, between the races. Why has no white or Asian run 100m in under 10 seconds, while hundreds of blacks have done so? And why did no black sub-Saharan African society ever create so much as a written language, never mind such innovations as internal combustion, for itself?

    I doubt you'll even attempt to answer either of the questions above, but if you decide to think about them, and the deeper questions that then ensue, Stormfront is an interesting arena for free discussion and free speech. Sadly, due to the stifling thought-control of the mainstream education-media lobby, it is one of relatively few significant outlets where such important issues can be freely and openly discussed.

    As for Miss Antas, I can only wish that there were more such ladies in our society in general; fair of face and inquisitive of mind. I applaud her libertarian position, and I trust that she will ignore politically-motivated sniping and carping as produced by Mr Janovic.

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  16. James: Mr. Irving has decided to harm his own reputation and his reasonable research probably isn't being contested because it was held-up to the rigors of academic standards that he refuses to adhere-to in his Holocaust revisionism.

    Others can demean themselves by bothering to engage your kind in debate, but I have no respect for your views and don't think any of you are worth a point-by-point dialog on what's clearly established and solid historiography on the Shoah.

    As you might notice, I don't engage against someone coming at me with straw man arguments.

    What's it like to live in your own isolated universe? I wouldn't know...

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  17. James: unsurprising, but I noticed your slight-of-hand with sub-Saharan writing as being some pretty obvious race-baiting along with being totally inaccurate.

    For example: the ancient Nubians of Kush had a written language and were hardly alone.

    Yep, this was written by a Black man: http://www.amazon.com/Afrikan-Alphabets-Story-Writing-Africa/dp/0972424067

    And, by your own logic, anyone who's a white supremacist--as you clearly are--cannot write credibly. Sure, that's pretty obvious, but it should be reiterated for the gullible and the ignorant, or both.

    As to StormFront: nobody's restricting yours or anyone's right to post on there, either anonymously or with your own name. However, we who strongly disagree with you have every right to criticize you and call for the law to be enforced when you or anyone goes too far and yells fire in a crowded theater.

    As you know, that's for the courts to decide. Welcome to America, a democracy. Take your licks like everyone else, grow-up.

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  18. So what if she is affiliated with Stormfront? If that is where she wants to express her views then shut up and stop being so cowardly and politically correct. It's embarassing. Try to succumb too much to the Evil Orthodoxy of our day. Try to maintain an independent mind. Try not to allow the question of race to force you to wet your pants. Western Civilization is going to crumble because a bunch of so-called "libertarians" are too craven to allow someone to speak their mind without throwing a PC-Tantrum. I bet Jefferson and Paine would be proud.

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  19. De Deckert: Hey, asshole, I don't have to "shut up," fuck you. You don't tell anyone who can and cannot write, speak, or express themselves. Jaenelle can do whatever she wants, but once you enter the public sphere, you're up-for-grabs. Are you a pussy or what? Small wonder you can't function in a democracy you fucking turd.

    Also, for the record, I'm not a dumbass Libertarian either, fucknut. Go live in Russia, I hear tell they have a leader there that you'd like living under. Asswipe.

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  20. Wow, is Matt Janovic ever an angry douchebag communist. We sure need less people like him speeding the last few shreds of Western civilisation to its bitter and tragic end.

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