tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32294008.post5837941311503321202..comments2023-04-18T09:58:42.054-04:00Comments on J to the Power of 7: "The Dead Kennedys search for another frontman"Matt Janovichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02700158612127533221noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32294008.post-81963927858026699012008-03-26T22:54:00.000-04:002008-03-26T22:54:00.000-04:00Sex Pistols: I would be interested to read that. I...Sex Pistols: I would be interested to read that. It amazes me that Maximumrocknroll still exists. By the time the Pistols did that show in 'Frisco, punk was essentially over, it had self-destructed. The rest was basically pantomime, but there were a few high-points with hardcore, but it was still aping punk. <BR/><BR/>It also all depends on where you think punk originated--the band Suicide was putting-up fliers for some of their tiny-gigs in 1971-72 calling themselves "punk," and then you have the MC5 and the Stooges in the 1960s and early-1970s, and that first Ramones LP in 1974, which nearly EVERY punker in the UK had before places like the 100 Club and all the fun at McClaren's SEX shop on King's Road, all the rest. <BR/><BR/>My take is that things coalesce because of complex social forces, but it's hard to say if people are going to go back to making their own original musics again, including the distro of it, rather than aping the last material. <BR/><BR/>That said, it's very hard to really do something totally original nowadays, you have to hybrid things, which most people have a problem with due to their own issues with conformism and orthodox-thinking. But you see someone break-out occasionally, even in the mainstream.Matt Janovichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02700158612127533221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32294008.post-86705381153397577672008-03-26T22:45:00.000-04:002008-03-26T22:45:00.000-04:00I don't agree about TG, and their reasons for brea...I don't agree about TG, and their reasons for breaking-up back in 1981 come down to this: Genesis wanted to have Cosey as his lady, but she chose Chris Carter. Now that so many years have passed, I don't really see any reason why not, they were never really rock-n'-roll anyway. Also, I don't see any real end-point with Industrial, if that's what you want to call it. <BR/><BR/>My feeling is that youth culture as the predominant-trend is ending because the demographics are changing to an older society, specifically America.<BR/><BR/>As for reunions, it's a mixed bag, obviously. If you were in a youth-oriented group or movement, yes, it looks a bit silly to be up there at 55 screaming as though you were 23. It depends on the artists, the music, and the forces that created it all. The trends that caused TG to coalesce seem well-in-place to me, certainly not anyone in punk, which has a pretty clean ending-point: 1978. <BR/><BR/>After that, it's akin to an American Civil War reenactment as a "movement." TG was their own deal, even with SPK, Coil, Monte Cazazza, NON, and all the rest. Many of them weren't even aware of each other's existence. Much of that came later through dissemination. Word-up!<BR/><BR/>Paul Raven: He was interesting as a bassist. A PiL reunion with Jah Wobble, Keith Levene, and maybe even Martin Atkins or an earlier drummer would be good. I look at a number of the groups I named as being outside of genres and almost outside of the cultural-flow, timeless, at least at their best. Punk was great, but it ended really fast, you could barely catch it. <BR/><BR/>Scenes end very quickly, their lifespan is rarely more than 2-3 years. The bands who are too tied to them are the ones that usually shouldn't reunite. It's complicated, no absolutes here.Matt Janovichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02700158612127533221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32294008.post-79695666249285338402008-03-26T17:54:00.000-04:002008-03-26T17:54:00.000-04:00Oh yeah, don't know if you are a fan, but the new ...Oh yeah, don't know if you are a fan, but the new issue of Maximum Rock n Roll is a special 30th anniversary of the last Sex Pistols show in San Fran. Apparently Jello, Thurston Moore, Rollins, and other punk luminaries have write ups about what the Pistols, and their last gig, meant to them. Or something.Nyarlathotephttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09349851633058184023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32294008.post-48796705821016359322008-03-26T17:52:00.000-04:002008-03-26T17:52:00.000-04:00I'm a fan of all the bands you mentioned, but not ...I'm a fan of all the bands you mentioned, but not so much into old bands getting back together, even if it is TG. I just feel there is a time and place for everything, and their time is past. Not that they shouldn't continue to produce more art, it's just that for me reunion tours are for geriatric dinosaurs like The Who or The Rolling Stones. Both good bands, just kind of embarrassing to see 55+ year old men poncing around on stage like they were in their 20's again.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, what was my point? Oh yeah, just hassling you on the "anymore" bit. Keep up the good work. Too bad about Paul Raven giving up the ghost, but all good things must come to an end. I was looking forward to seeing him on the C U La Tour with Ministry, but at least he left some good stuff behind before he passed.Nyarlathotephttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09349851633058184023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32294008.post-14781369129437238112008-03-25T17:17:00.000-04:002008-03-25T17:17:00.000-04:00I disagree about the projects that Jello has been ...I disagree about the projects that Jello has been involved in. They're not great as far as the Ministry-based ones, but I thought the Melvins collaboration was good. <BR/><BR/>It all depends on the artists--as for the DK's, it obvious that it's just a money-grab without any real substance. Of course, you could say that about the Sex Pistols, but they never got paid in-the-beginning. Did Jello rip-them-off? The answer is likely "yes."<BR/><BR/>I never liked the bands you mention. My tastes are more in the realm of Psychic TV, Coil, Wire, PiL, Killing Joke-postpunk was far-and-away the best byproduct of punk, as well as the DIY ethic and the distro networks it inspired. Most of that is over now, but the Internet has filled-the-gap.<BR/><BR/>Frankly, I think the most exciting thing in the last few years is the regrouping of Throbbing Gristle...<BR/><BR/><BR/>"Anymore"? Who cares? This isn't a dissertation. Just telling...Matt Janovichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02700158612127533221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32294008.post-40027256906502052922008-03-25T17:04:00.000-04:002008-03-25T17:04:00.000-04:00"At least Jello isn't pretending anymore"....Unles..."At least Jello isn't pretending anymore"....<BR/><BR/>Unless you count the two albums he did in 2006 and 2007 with the Melvins, the work he is still doing with Al Jourgensen of Ministry fame, etc., etc., etc.<BR/><BR/>Good posts you have but when it comes to music, especially punk rock, don't count the old guys out. I just went to see Tesco Vee of the Meatmen and White Flag just last weekend. He's got a new album with a new lineup coming very soon. Granted it was a bit sad (I have a problem with old men in their late 50's fondling themselves in public. not out of sense of decency or anything like that, just don't really care to see it. also couldn't really take a guy seriously who excused Screwdriver for being a WP band just because they wrote some "really rockin' tunes"), though he could still put on a great show <BR/><BR/>And is any more really one word? Just asking.Nyarlathotephttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09349851633058184023noreply@blogger.com